Live a Good Life


“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” ― Marcus Aurelius

God Preferred Inbred Relationships


I'm a former Christian and reading the Bible led me to disbelief. It's been a long time since I've done that, so I've decided to get into it again now that I'm older. I'm adding some Bible study to my Agnostic Guide for this blog. It's starting to feel like a waste of time, but I'll use it to throw out a general observation here and there.

Here's an odd thing that really jumped out at me during my recent review: God preferred inbred relationships in the Old Testament for many key characters as his chosen people.

Warring Children of Abraham


The children of Abraham squabble and fight like the worst of siblings. They're closely related as a people if the religious texts can be believed. The picture above is a good one for showing the messed up family tree branching out from Abraham. Jews and Jesus are believed to descend from Isaac whereas Muhammad was descended from his older brother Ishmael. Ishmael's mother was Isaac's mother's handmaid, so that's an interesting relationship dynamic between the descendents.

Militant Fundamentalist Agnostics

I bookmarked an old blog post from way back in 2013 (so long ago, right?) called Militant Fundamentalist Agnostics and the meaning of atheism. It's a reminder to not be "that person" regarding my beliefs. I don't think I've ever been that person even though I'm an advocate for agnosticism. I know atheists are a full spectrum from a weak rejection of theism as unproven to a strong assertion for proof that there are no gods. I usually call the strong atheist an anti-theist to make that distinction.

That blog post starts with identifying the Militant Fundamentalist Agnostic (bonus points for the accompanying comic from my favorite XKCD):

Religious literalists and creationists can be annoying, and liberal believers whose theology is entirely apophatic can also be annoying; however anyone who espouses atheism on the internet will soon encounter an even more annoying group: the Militant Fundamentalist Agnostics.
The what? Surely that’s a contradiction in terms?! Sadly not, the Militant Fundamentalist Agnostic, while pretending to complete ignorance of gods, will confidently assert the central dogma of the agnostic faith, and cling to it tenaciously. Their one dogma is the claim that atheists make dogmatic assertions about the non-existence of gods. And hence, by declaring themselves to be free of such unwarranted, beyond-the-evidence assertions, they feel themselves superior, not only to the believers, who have no proof of their deities, but also to the atheists, who have no proof to back up their supposed claims of certain non-existence.

Non-Religious Rising

Source: Twitter

New statistics are out showing ‘Nones’ now as big as evangelicals, Catholics in the US. This is good news for those of us in this unaffiliated minority.
According to newly released General Social Survey data analyzed by Ryan P. Burge of Eastern Illinois University, Americans claiming “no religion” — sometimes referred to as “nones” because of how they answer the question “what is your religious tradition?” — now represent about 23.1 percent of the population, up from 21.6 percent in 2016. People claiming evangelicalism, by contrast, now represent 22.5 percent of Americans, a slight dip from 23.9 percent in 2016.

Atheism and the Scientific Method

Scientific America published an interview with Marcelo Gleiser titled Atheism Is Inconsistent with the Scientific Method, Prize-Winning Physicist Says. I don't agree with this particular agnostic's conclusion. He makes the false assertion that atheism is as a belief in non-belief. Atheism might mean that in the strongest sense, but the broadest definition of atheism says it's simply a lack of belief. The atheist is unconvinced. Here's Gleiser's false assertion:
I honestly think atheism is inconsistent with the scientific method. What I mean by that is, what is atheism? It’s a statement, a categorical statement that expresses belief in nonbelief. “I don’t believe even though I have no evidence for or against, simply I don’t believe.” Period. It’s a declaration. But in science we don’t really do declarations. We say, “Okay, you can have a hypothesis, you have to have some evidence against or for that.” And so an agnostic would say, look, I have no evidence for God or any kind of god (What god, first of all? The Maori gods, or the Jewish or Christian or Muslim God? Which god is that?) But on the other hand, an agnostic would acknowledge no right to make a final statement about something he or she doesn’t know about. “The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,” and all that. This positions me very much against all of the “New Atheist” guys—even though I want my message to be respectful of people’s beliefs and reasoning, which might be community-based, or dignity-based, and so on. And I think obviously the Templeton Foundation likes all of this, because this is part of an emerging conversation. It’s not just me; it’s also my colleague the astrophysicist Adam Frank, and a bunch of others, talking more and more about the relation between science and spirituality.
An atheist doesn't declare: "I don’t believe even though I have no evidence for or against, simply I don’t believe." An atheist declares they don't believe because the evidence for belief is insufficient to sway them to belief. The facts don't support the hypothesis for gods. Gleiser's characterization of atheists is as preposterous as some of the atheist reasons to dismiss agnostics.

Agnostic Spectrum of Probabilities - The God Delusion

The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins has a section called "The Poverty of Agnosticism" which obviously criticizes agnosticism. He's a renowned author for disbelief and the book is great except for that section. Most of the section is a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of agnosticism with its focus on God.

Dawkins asks "How about the question of God? Should we be agnostic about him too?" The words "God" and "him" tells me he's talking about the very specific Abrahamic God. That God is unbelievable and unproven when you apply the scientific method advocated by agnosticism. If an agnostic believes in that God then they should rightfully identify as whichever flavor of theism matches their belief and primary concern for the subject. The question of that specific God is the wrong question concerning agnosticism.

Screwed by Evolution

Check out this article called Unadapted Us – How We’ve Been Screwed By Evolution. Humans generally have a bad design when you examine our various pieces and parts. We can look at other animals and see that evolution could do a better job for us. The article goes through several bad design features and ways they could be improved. It's somewhat humorous and informative.

Darwin Ape

Coded to Not Trust Smart People

Dilbert is one of my favorite comics. The recent Sunday comic is a good one so click that link.

Dilbert creates a simulated world in software and programs the people in it to think they have free will. Dogbert asks what happens if they discover their true nature. Dilbert replies that he coded in some limitations to hamper that and describes a few of them. Read the full comic because they obviously correlate to our own limitations in this Universe.

I'll go ahead and reveal the punch line here for discussion. Dilbert coded the simulated people to not trust smart people so they won't question the simulation. Sometimes it seems like this is a painful part of our reality (or are we in a simulation?).

Agnostic and Atheist at the Same Time

I came across a great article by Godless Mom called How Can Someone be an Agnostic and an Atheist at the Same Time? I agree with everything she said so this will be a short post.

The article covers the false choice that is sometimes presented between being an unbelieving atheist and an unknowing agnostic. Agnosticism isn't fence sitting or a middle ground between atheism and theism. Agnosticism isn't a secular refusal to weigh in on the existence or nonexistence of gods. Agnosticism says knowledge is the important consideration and the correct conclusion about knowledge is that we don't know. We could know in the future, we may never find the knowledge, or the first cause of the Universe could be completely beyond our capabilities as an unknowable concept.

Courtney wrote:
Of course, not everyone who identifies as an agnostic will claim to be a theist or atheist, but all agnostics are one of these two. They either have an active belief in a god or they do not and if they do not, whether these people like it or not, they are atheist. This is the definition of the word: no belief in god. It makes no difference if you claim knowledge of zero gods or not. Atheism is NOT the claim there are no gods.
I didn't understand this at first but I've grown to better understand it and accept it. It's a strong atheist or anti-theist who would claim there are no gods. The more common weak atheist simply rejects the gods as unproven. That's why the flipside of this is that atheists are also very often agnostics whether they like it or not. That's fine and we all gravitate towards the labels that make the most sense for how we want to portray our viewpoints about theism.

An Atheist with a Tall Hat

Humanist magazine posted an article called An Atheist with a Tall Hat On: The Forgotten History of Agnosticism. The opening argument is that atheism and agnosticism are the same.
One sometimes gets the impression that religious and nonreligous people alike consider agnosticism a more rational and sophisticated creed than atheism. On the contrary, agnosticism differs from atheism in name only. The distinction between the two is really about class and politics, not substance.
The article continues with some accurate background on agnosticism before it makes a false comparison to atheism.
To maintain his hard-fought respectability, Huxley unveiled the term in 1869 at a meeting of the Metaphysical Society, an eclectic group of leading believers and nonbelievers in Victorian Britain. He argued that Christians and atheists both shared a belief in the certainty of their views and that this certainty was unjustified. For Huxley, rather than claiming special knowledge, to be agnostic was to profess one’s lack of knowledge.
This seems a novel position only if one understands “atheism” to mean a positive defense of God’s nonexistence. But this wasn’t the meaning that many nineteenth-century atheists accepted.
This is where the writer strays when he says agnosticism is only a novel position if atheism is a positive defense of God's nonexistence. Claiming agnosticism says no such thing about atheism. Atheism is and can continue to be a rejection of God's nonexistence as simply not proven. The burden of proof is on the believer making those claims so atheism doesn't serve as a positive defense with or without the existence of agnosticism.

Agnosticism

What we know and don't know is much more important and worthy of consideration than what we believe and disbelieve.

ag·nos·ti·cism

1. the doctrine or belief of an agnostic (a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.)

2. An intellectual doctrine or attitude affirming the uncertainty of all claims to ultimate knowledge.

Return of Agnostic Universe

Hello Earth and the rest of the universe! I used to host a website and blog called Agnostic Universe for many years. I let it go because it took up more time and money than it was worth since I managed and paid for the website.

I'm relaunching that content here on Blogger. This can now exist as long as the Blogger platform survives. I'm starting with reposting the Agnostic Library. These are the various writings of others that I assembled when I was first exploring agnosticism. I'll also post the book I wrote called An Agnostic Guide to Life, the Universe, and Everything. It's a more structured set of my musings as I explored agnosticism. The links for these are at the top of the site. I'll probably get back to blogging too so watch this space for any new musings I may have about agnosticism.

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